My response to the issues regarding SNSD’s Dream Concert 2008 Scandals + the truth Why Fans Hated SNSD June 12, 2008
Posted by Chris in : Korean Music , trackbackRead Popseoul’s post about SNSD and Dream Concert 2008 here.
I don’t agree with your post regarding kicking Taeyeon…
Taeyeon seems to have more singing parts than the other SNSD members… She sings well too.
Anyway, I think it’s Tiffany’s fault that’s why all this things happened.
The issue between TAEYEON and JUNSU shouldn’t make a fight between the FANS! TAEYEON and JUNSU are still HUMANS and its natural for them to FALL IN LOVE,,,
Anyway, the artists didn’t make the issues a big deal. It’s just between the FANS that made the issues bigger and created such noise and SCANDAL.
Let’s just continue to SUPPORT THE ARTISTS: TVXQ, SUPER JUNIOR, SNSD and other affected artists…. It’s not good to have anti-fan clubs anyway…
—–no offense to other people, fans, groups, etc. this is just my opinion, please respect it… you could also post your own opinion, we are living in a free world.
For clarifications,
SNSD didn’t cry after the concert!
Here’s a glimpe of Taeyeon’s post from Taengu Gallery website:
I hope that you guys don’t fight with other fans over trivial matters..
I’ve seen many posts here that say we cried after we finished our performance.. There have been many rumors like that keke
SNSD didn’t cry, really. Instead, we are viewing it as expereince and growing stronger from it ^^ ~ (credits soompi)
But here are the reasons why fans hated SNSD (taken from ShenYuePop.com):
It seems that I am not aware of the issue, I admit it, but I think most of the fanti-fans also are not.
1. SNSD appeared at Sungmin’s DMB radio program as guests and they made fun of Shinhwa member JunJin. They called him “Justin Jinberlake” and Tiffany made a mockery of JunJin’s “Wa” dance from his solo performance, while other members were laughing and giggling.
2. SNSD Tiffany also made rude comments, such as “Shin Hye Sung’s voice sounds like a goat” and “Look at Shin Hye Sung’s hair”.
3. When Lee Minwoo, in a playful manner, bowed and greeted SNSD first, what happened was that while the rest of SNSD were bowing, Hyoyeon (towards the right end) was the only one who didn’t and just stood there holding the hands of her members and preventing them from bowing too!
4. On Happy Sunday program, there was a corner where two contenders tried to force each other to say “garbage” in order to win the game. On this day, SNSD’s Taeyeon sat across trot singer Park Hyun Bin and asked “What do you think of Shinhwa in Korea’s music industry?” In response, Park Hyun Bin said, “Garbage” in order to not lose to Taeyeon. However, SHinhwa member Kim Dong Wan was sitting next to them as a guest on the program. Both Taeyeon and Park Hyunbin were at fault. However, even if it was scripted, Taeyeon should have known better to not ask that question, instigating Park Hyunbin to respond unfavorably. Does it make sense to say this in front of a senior 10 years above herself?
5. Tae Yeon came out on Kangin’s radio program and called him an “idiot” in korean so Kangin had to defend for Taeyeon and tell listeners she accidently mispronounced the word, and that she did not say that on purpose.
6. On a show program Tiffany said “Lee Teuk” instead of “sonbae” when calling him to get his attention.
(In Korean there are two forms of speaking to someone and you must always formal speech when talking to elders–sunbaes.)7. SooYoung appeared on Star Golden Bell and lied that Lee Teuk only escorts girl trainees back home and accused him of being a player for which he got a lot of bashing for and a bad image in the media. This erroneous rumor spread like wild fire on the news.
8. On Chin Chin Radio, Evan (a singer) appeared on Chin Chin radio and was talking with Sunny and Sungmin when Sungmin suddenly said, “Leeteuk is the same!” Then Sunny shot back “How dare you compare him with Leeteuk” = “How dare you compare Leeteuk to Evan?”
9. When asked what she didn’t like about the 1st album , Suhyun said she didn’t like the wigs they wore because Super Junior T wore it. Other members asked, “Was that the same one Shin Dong wore?”
10. Tiffany also said SNSD is not a unit and that many people think they are because of Super Junior. She said, “Some people are afraid that we might break up into groups like SUJU, but we are ONE. Taeyeon’s “IF” is that of SNSD, “Oppa Nappa” is also that of SNSD. After she said this, Kim hee Chul and Lee Teuk were mad and upset and wrote on their cyworlds that super junior is “one” as well.
11. In the case of SUJU, on the Taeyeon-Kangin radio program “Chin Chin”, -Taeyeon said a cuss word that eventually Kangin had to take responsibility!
Specifically she called him a “retard” in korean it’s a cuss word. In return Kangin had to defend for Taeyeon and tell listeners she accidentally mispronounced the word, and that she did not say that on purpose.12. SNSD commented that it would be difficult to follow S.E.S. because its members are artificial. (Looks who’s talking!)
And they added that SNSD is this generation’s beauties.13. When Tiffany saw Park Jung Min, she said he looks like he’d have 10 bank accounts and that he looks funny from far away.
14. During the program, Tiffany also exclaimed “omg HIM”?! when she saw Park Jung Min. She has no right to be an MC.
15. Same as what happened with SS501 and SUJU; some members of SNSD did not use formal speech when talking about DBSK and calling their names, like saying “Xiah Junsu” instead of “sonbae”.
16. Jessica guest starred on Park Kyung Lim’s Outing. Park Kyung Lim asked Jessica who her favorite artist was and she said DBSK. Then Park Kyung LIm asked which member in DBSK she liked and she said “Jaejoong”, not using formal speech to say his name.
17. Tiffany showed how witty she was by saying DBSK’s wave of red balloons looked like insects.
18. SNSD made fun of Tae Yang’s real name “Dong Youngbae”, saying “What kind of name is that? It’s not even “Dong Young sang” (videos).” They probably though they were so clever that they could rhyme Young bae’s name to the word for videos in Korean.
19. Taeyeon was on Kangin’s Chin Chin radio when she saw Tablo at the computer. She said, “Doesn’t he look like a leet “오타쿠” ?
(For those who don’t know what leet means, you can look it up in “Urban Dictionary”. But leet is an internet word that has evolved into referring to gamers or computer hackers who are stuck in front of their computers. But in Korean, it also has negative references to the Japanese.)20. SNSD members were rude to the program PD (producer & camera man), intentionally hiding Yoonah (the guest) and giving her food to eat, which is against the rules on the show. When they were finally caught by the PD, they shook their head and said, “We didn’t do anything” and then at the end, blatantly admitted that Yoonah ate something.
The PD said, “For someone who is young, you shouldn’t do this, Yoonah.”
Yoonah replied, “I’m 18,” while blinking her eyes innocently.
Yuri, who was standing in front, said, “We are old enough ~” while Taeyeon grabbed the back of her neck and pretended to fall to the ground, expressing that what the PD said was not “fair”.
Obviously the PD had every right to speak his mind, and the way SNSD was treating him was very rude and inexcusable.
SNSD then performed the song “Girls Generation” that starts with quite fitting lyrics “Don’t make fun of me because I’m young…” (Then why don’t they just grow up?!)21. On a weekend café program, SNSD called a trot singer “Sparkles” (referring to the bright sequined clothes they wear) and said, “Get money from Sparkles~”. The members delayed the serving the singer, saying amongst each other “I don’t like Sparkles”. They made their contempt for the singer evident while showing favoritism for some baseball players also at the café.
22. YoonAh guest starred on Tei’s “Island” radio program. Tei greeted her with a full bow but Yoonha just gave a small bow as if greeting a B-list singer. Tei is not a B-list singer; he is one of the top ballad singers in Korea with a voice to die for.
23. As we covered this incident before actor Kim Ji Suk’s English was corrected on air by Tiffany and caused him embarrassment for the rest of the program. This is when Kim Ji Suk is fluent in English himself and he was raised in England and lived in the United States for some years as well!
24. For a Christmas charity event, SNSD planned to visit a nursery to take care of kids. However, SNSD was late for the event, leaving only 20 minutes to take care of the kids. And during this time, there were so many reporters at the scene that all SNSD did was to take pictures with the kids. (It was just a publicity stunt to enhance their fake image.)
25. Yuri made a slip of tongue, saying “My country” instead of “Our country” when referring to Korea, causing a national outcry.
Source: Reuters, BBC, Sports Chosun, Naver, LA Times, Youtube, Newsen, Washington Post, damienkatz.net
Credit for ShenYuePop.com: ShenYue! + soyboy
ShenYuePop did a thorough research of they issue. One more thing to add why fans became very wild during the concert is because of the issues in their country, Korea. Read it more here…
Anyway, these are just petty issues, let’s focus more on real life problems of our country and society!
Comments
I hate who ever wrote this. The peoplein snsd are still around the teenage age and like to joke around PLUS something worse could have happened to them like Hannah Montana so live with it and they are not bad just good singers and can get sereos alot so do NOT talk bad things about them
Toodles,
Madie Freeman
so childish..i mean, first of all, they are human too..they have the right to joke around and be human too..what is wrong with that? i’m not a fan of snsd but this totally is against my morals..they are just great young dancers and singers whose trying to fit in but fans or anti-fans seems to always find ways to put them down. grow up fans
The only thing that made me iffy about this post was the thing about “SUJU not being one” They are more one than one can ever be.
That’s all i really have to say
I must say that SNSD was pretty immature because of what they did, but remember, they are growing girls. I think people are being too strict on them. People make mistakes all of the time, especially when they’re young. They have the tendency to joke, play, and be energetic. I do think that some of the things they do are definitely wrong and they should fix it, but these are minor things. No need to protest the girls because of what they did. These girls only say these things, it is not as bad as some fans, who threw water on the fans who cheered for SNSD.
Honestly, I dont like the girls’ behaviors toward their sunbaes. I’m Vietnamese and we have formal speech in our laguage, too. It is not easy to talk to the elders and “forget” about the formal speech, because it is the culture. However, the girls are human so they can always make mistakes. I just hope that they would be more careful about their behaviors. They are the role models for many younger people to look at. Don’t dissappoint the fans and the people around them. They are 18, 19 years old already, they need to start learning how to speak formally.
all i can say is: STOP WITH YOUR FREAKING JEALOUS ATTIDUDE!!!! not only you but all the stupid fans who been jealous of snsd. all these bashing going around saying they did this they did that because the fans were so jealous that they have to find all these reasons to bash on snsd and while trying to cover their stupidity jealous attitude. oh, get over it!!!!! you can’t get near to dbsk and super junior and whoever while snsd can and now you have to find a way to get rid of them. very mature! NOT! you can’t expect young girls like snsd to know everything. people aren’t perfect, you know? if i have to, i can point out all these “rude” things that all the celebrity made, not only snsd. and the fans have to pick on snsd, not someone else who’s even worse than them. why? all because of JEALOUSY!!!!!!!!
all your info is biased. you’re pretty lame having nothing better to do than bash on SNSD and try to twist words around. But I guess thats what you do, since you will never be as successful or as accomplished as them. and when was the last time calling someone that resembles “justin timberlake” a diss? if i do remember correctly, JT is one of the biggest and insanely successful popstars in America. and wtf is wrong with “my country?” ever heard of the expression “where i come from?” or “in my country…etc” or are you too dumb to comprehend what that mends. and on Happy Sunday Kim Dong Wan made a joke out of the “garbage” remark if you watched the entire clip. His joke at the end was a form of expressing that he understands it was a joke and there was no offense taken. It’s people like you that make the world disgusting, you think you’re making a difference by posting “the truth” but in reality you are just another typical anti-fan that has nothing better to do but sit on your ass and post biased views in hopes that other people will agree with you and praise your writing. well, reality check, good people in the world learn to forgive and forget, while the fucking shady and shitty people like you still dwell on the little mistakes that every human makes in his/her lifetime. unless of course, you’re not human.
Guys!
Please pay attention to the sources! I didn’t write all the articles above. I only wrote my reactions from Popseoul.com’s post.
“The reasons why fans hated SNSD” was from ShenYuePop.com! Why would I write them, when I am a FAN of SNSD???
Please read them properly before posting your comments!
I don’t know much about SNSD: I don’t hate them or love them.
Even though they are young, they still have to show respect. And because they are working as a girl group, they are required to be mature. And cut the girl some slack, she’s not bashing SNSD.
omfg you fans are being so imature. you like snsd so much that you would do anything to bring back their fame. even though they’re young, they should’ve learned to respect the elders when they were kids. what did you say? humans make mistakes, so cut them some slack? well fyi, if we always cut them some slack, what will they learn huh? fans like these people sicken and aggrivates me >:O
and you know what “trang_foreversnsd”?? your comment sickens me the most you fob xD. omg, what a name! “trang_foreversnsd”
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